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August - the Exclusive Brethren, then Richard Dawkins critique of religion

1/10/2016

 
Former Benalla convenor Laurence Neil presented a session, at our August meeting, about the Exclusive Brethren otherwise called the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church.  Two of the Wangaratta U3A members also attended with Laurence and contributed to the session which boosted our attendance to six people.
 
Laurence has extensive knowledge about this Church because he worked as a teacher at their Nathalia School and was accepted as an “honorary” member.  It is not possible to walk off the street and become a member of this religion because you must be “born” into it, hence the title “exclusive”.  Brethren members are often successful in business and contribute generously to community charities but their strict rules for members, which includes no TV, university education, computers and other devices leads to the conclusion that it is a “cult”.
 
Our session finished with a searing critique of religion from a DVD video presented by Richard Dawkins. Dawkins is a well-known atheist and sceptic who advocates for reason and science ahead of faith and belief.  Perhaps the value of religion lies somewhere between the two extremes of fundamentalism and atheism because we are not just machine like rational thinkers but also passionate and feeling beings.  While the influence of religions decreases as societies become more knowledgeable and sophisticated, it is unlikely that they will disappear any time soon.
 
With this final report and on a personal note; I am grateful to Benalla U3A for the opportunity to convene the Comparative Religion class.  While it was not quite my “cuppa tea” it came close and I was surprised by many of the wonderful stories plus the rich history contained within this subject.  Also my thanks to the attendees who persevered and contributed honestly for the benefit of all.                              

​Mike Larkin
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A final session and ... for some... an overnight stay at an ashram

26/8/2016

 
The Comparative Religion group held its final meeting at W4 on Wednesday 3rd August.  Prior to the group winding up, Jenny Geer offered to arrange a weekend at an ashram for those who might be interested. 
 
Arrangements for an overnight stay at the Rocklyn Yoga Ashram on Saturday 10th September are now being finalised.   If you would like more information or are interested in attending, please phone Jenny on 0429 433 745.      
 
 http://www.yogavic.org.au/
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July report - Jenny Geer walks the Camino and Kumano

29/7/2016

 
For our July session Jenny Geer presented an excellent Power point talk with photos, via the W4 TV, about her pilgrimage walks/tours in Spain and Japan. Both the Camino in Spain and Kumano in Japan have a long history and are both listed as world heritage sites. The Camino is, or can be, very long, 800 kilometres or more, and a minimum of 100 kilometres is required in order to qualify as a pilgrimage. The tomb of St James, of the Christian gospels, which is installed in the cathedral of Santiago de Compostella is the end destination point for the Camino trail. The trail is very well used by people from all over the world and for all sorts of reasons. It has food and accommodation stops at approximately every 20 to 30 kilometres. These vary in standard, mostly with dormitory style sleeping, so occasionally Jenny would indulge the luxury of a modest motel room. Pilgrims can walk, run, crawl, cycle and ride horses along the trail, it is up to the participant and their needs and abilities.

The Kumano in Japan requires visits to a number of different areas which includes temples and shrines and because it is located in mountainous country it means walking up and down lots of steps. This pilgrimage only involves about 50 kms of walking in total and there is some danger from wild bears. Pilgrims carry a small bell to warn off the bears. Jenny was most impressed with the standards of quality and orderliness by the Japanese in both building and maintaining the shrines, paths and facilities. Because the Camino and Kumano are “twinned” Jenny has a special certificate acknowledging this achievement.

Unfortunately the August session of Comparative Religion will be the last for this year due mainly to a decline in numbers. My approach to the topic has been somewhat unconventional and so it has been a partial success only. I did enjoy most of the classes and the enthusiasm of participants and I appreciate the support of Benalla’s outstanding U3A organisation.

For the August session on Wednesday the 3rd Laurence Neal will present information and video about the Exclusive Brethren. This replaces the scheduled talk by a Buddhist teacher/practitioner which was cancelled due to insufficient notifications of attendance. Because this will be the last class the other scheduled topics and trips for the remainder of the year are also cancelled.

Having learned from this experience to be more forthcoming about my area of greatest interest and still wanting to be part of U3A I may propose a different class for the summer of 2017 when short courses may be held. As a guide to what such a class would entail, it will include inquiry into beliefs of all kinds and some focus upon wisdom, the understanding about and the acquisition of it – think of Socrates for an approximation of what I am talking about! The course would not be about conventional or academic philosophy nor the promotion of any ideology, political or religious.

Mike Larkin

June - Sacred Sites ... coming up, Pilgrimages and Buddhism

5/7/2016

 
A small group of four watched the DVD about the BBC production Sacred Sites of Britain presented by the excellent guide Neil Oliver.  This topic was prepared by Joy Shirley and promoted much discussion about the whys and wherefores of such religious activities.  What thinking could have caused communities to put in so much time and energy shifting and geometrically placing sometimes huge stones in the ground or digging vast mounds, flint mines and ditches with only antler horns and flint tools?
 
Looking at historical sites such as Stonehenge allows us the luxury of hindsight and we can become bemused by the strange things that people will do in the name of religion.  At the time no doubt it was intensely sacred and serious for those involved, with their limited knowledge compared to today.
 
Fervent passion followed by inevitable decline is an observable historical pattern for all religions of the world.  As scientific knowledge plus experience replaces superstition and traditional belief, and new ways arise to bond communities, the need for religion as we now know it diminishes. (Please note that we are discussing institutional religions and not the existence or otherwise of God.)
 
When considering the establishment of what could be called a “religion” on a large scale today the movement which sprung to mind during our discussion was “Climate Change”.  Similarly, but on a lesser scale, football is often referred to as a religion because it incites great passion and draws fans together into “clans”, many of whom spend lots of time and money in pursuit of the “heavenly” grand-final win.
 
Our June session also discussed the agenda for the rest of term 2.
 
Our main topic for July will be pilgrimages with a presentation from Jenny Geer who has walked the Camino trail in Spain and recently walked a pilgrimage trail in Japan.  We may also discuss the modern SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious) phenomenon, as suggested by Joy, if time allows.
 
In August Linden Hilgendorf will visit us from Chiltern.  Linden, a Buddhist practitioner and teacher, will talk to us about Buddhism and answer questions.
 
Anyone from U3A interested in Buddhism is welcome to attend as we are a small group and I would like to make it worthwhile for Linden. We would appreciate a donation towards Linden’s travel expense.
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Learning about Quakers

29/5/2016

 
​Our discussion subject this month was on the Quaker movement – more correctly known as the Society of Friends, sometimes shortened to Friends.   While many people know that they are pacifists, we found that their other beliefs and approaches interesting.  They have a very strong belief in equality.  This transfers across all aspects in their lives and is demonstrated is in their services. 
 
Their weekly gatherings are called meetings, where everyone is equal.  They have no priests or ministers, no ceremonies or rituals, they sit quietly, often in a circle as no-one is superior.  People may stand and provide brief comments on their thoughts, but this is not mandatory.  They do elect elders to manage the business of the group, and have a more business related meeting once a month.  In marriage, both partners are equal, not one superior to the other.  This even applies to same-gender relationships which have been accepted in the movement for many years.
 
In Australia, there is a large group of Friends in Hobart.  They established a school around 1886.  This is the largest Quaker school in the world, spread across three campuses in Hobart.  We were pleased to have another U3A member who had been a student at the school for 9 years, visit us for the session.   She provided valuable information about the school and the movement, although she was not a member of the Society of Friends.  The school is open to all, another example of the deep sense of equality in the movement.
 
Important Note: For all members of the Comparative Religion Group, there has been a change to the plans for our June session.  The visit to a mosque in Shepparton will not take place until later in the year, so our June session will take place as usual on the first Wednesday of the month – 1 June.   It will be a mixed bag of subjects which may include DVD's about the Sacred Sites of Britain and some study of the principles of Islam in preparation for a cultural/religious tour to Shepparton later in the year.
 

April - defining 'Comparative Religion' and more...

30/4/2016

 
We had an attendance of seven which included Laurence Neil,  the former coordinator of our class. The majority of the discussion was a review our March class when we worked on the definition and origins or religion, plus the listing and discussion about future topics for the group. These future topics could include a visit to Shepparton for discussions on Islam with a Muslim leader and an overnight stay at an Ashram near Daylesford.

​Our next topic for May will be about the Quaker religion as suggested by Joy Shirley. Could all class members please bring along your research findings about this enigmatic religion.
 
A major discussion during the April session was about the need to define Comparative Religion as suggested by Freida Andrews. Due to Mike, the coordinator’s, leaning toward philosophy and spirituality it was felt that a distinction needed to be made between objectively comparing the religions of the world and personally discussing the philosophy and causes behind religion. It was generally agreed that the study of comparative Religions is mainly about the former distinction.
 
The April class was concluded by watching the remainder of the movie “Sita Sings the Blues” by American animation filmmaker Nina Paley.  While the movie includes historical aspects of Hinduism namely, extracts from the epic poem the Ramayana, it is essentially a story about romance and the raw deal so often dished out to women both historically and still today.                                                                                                                     Mike Larkin

March--defining religion; the origins of religion & religion today

29/3/2016

 
​The session commenced with discussion about future topics. This included research on encyclicals by Pope Francis and the merging of pagan cultures with Christian beliefs.  We moved on to a discussion of the various definitions of “religion”.  One that seemed to spark some interest was something of overwhelming importance to a person.  Another expressed the view that many definitions focus too narrowly on only a few aspects of religion; they tend to exclude those religions that do not fit well. An alternative was offered - It is apparent that religion can be seen as a theological, philosophical, anthropological, sociological, and psychological phenomenon of human kind. To limit religion to only one of these categories is to miss its multifaceted nature and lose out on the complete definition.
 
We followed up with a comparison between the origins of religion and religion today.  After developing a list of features of the origins, we looked at what we could see as the differences today.  Our conclusion was that much of the original list still applied but some less comfortable cultural aspects that had crept in i.e. power, greed, idealism and seeing things in black and white even though a more mature approach would see more grey.
 
Homework for this month is to look at the website www.religioustolerance.org   Freida will look for some information on the encyclicals by Pope Francis. 

February - introducing the vagaries of religion and life in general

28/2/2016

 
Our group of 9 members, with one apology and one absent, met in room W4 at 1:30 pm till 3:00 pm.  After some housekeeping from President Terry Case and brief introductions from the group members we watched just over half of the animated musical movie “Sita Sings the Blues.” This movie is a parallel story about the love lives of two women, one the American writer/director Nina Paley and Sita, the Hindu Goddess who was treated rather badly by her husband Rama. This was not a particularly religious movie but it was chosen as an entertaining introduction to the vagaries of religion and life in general.
 
After some brief discussion about the movie we spoke about what topics the group should study in coming sessions. Some of the topics will include the American Amish communities, Druids and the ancient Mithraic religion. For our March session the main topic/study will be to define the origins and purposes of religions and how they manifest in the world today. 

Our meeting time has been confirmed as 1:00 pm to 3:00 pm with the option of staying an extra half hour to 3:30 if required on the day.

Speakers on behalf of Jehovah's Witnesses; Singing Bowls

25/11/2015

 
We started the session with part of a DVD on the early days of Christianity as an introduction to a visit from some speakers on behalf of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.  They spoke about the history of the movement, and some of the achievements in producing different translations of the Bible – both around modernising the English translations as well as other languages.  Unfortunately, it was generally felt that some of our questions were not adequately answered.
 
Jenny brought along some Singing Bowls, and spent some time talking about the history and use of the bowls – the ritual and meaning behind the use.  As well as demonstrating the sound from the bowls, we were all able to have a turn, feeling the vibrations and hearing the sound.  Thank you Jenny.
 
Mike is busy planning our first session for next year, and all are welcome to join us.

Winton session course review and our final session for 2015 

29/10/2015

 
The Jehovah's Witness guest speakers are still keen and should arrive for our November session in room W4 on Wednesday the 4th at 1pm. This will be our last session for the year and I suggest that because we have guests and it is our windup that anyone who feels inclined bring a small "plate" for afternoon tea.

I'll just mention some of the wishes expressed at the Winton session:


The central goal of the group should be the study of different religions and that it should be objective rather than subjective. That means that we study other people and their religions rather than express our personal ideas and beliefs about religion. While this is the virtual opposite to my preference I will attempt to stick to the wish of the majority - but, I will always welcome any personal expressions of opinion and belief!  (I don't think that it would be out of place to discuss the root causes/origins of religions at some point.)

Secondly members would like guest speakers, but Laurence has told me that they are difficult to organize, so that might happen only occasionally. 
It may also help if we combine with the Wang group to make guest speakers more worthwhile. Alternatively, I am going to try and find suitable speaker/documentaries/movies from the library and internet  which can be played on room W4's TV via DVD or USB stick.

Thirdly some members are keen on the member presentations and these will be brief and of a topic of particular interest to the member. For example Marg Sellars likes the American Amish people and she may give a presentation about them. Also Jenny Geer has expressed the wish to present a topic when time allows next year.

Fourthly, and finally, we will stick to the once per month session, as it is now, and use email as a reminder of "what's on" and as a follow up for those wishing to clarify something from a session or to propose new studies etc.

 

Mike Larkin


September meeting - Islamic leaders including Suleiman

20/9/2015

 
Our plan for our September meeting was to have a speaker from the Baha’i Faith but we have been unable to contact them. If anyone knows of a reliable contact person from Baha’i please let us know. Instead, after discussion time, we watched the final of three videos about Islam in which we saw the extent of the Empire and its various leaders including, probably the greatest, Suleiman. This video was mainly about the secular side of the Islamic empire when it was at its height. Suleiman expanded the architecture and culture of Islam with magnificent mosques and other engineering marvels extending from Spain in the west, Hungary in the north and most of the middle-east. Suleiman suffered the usual problems of the succession in an autocracy which included the terrible necessity of having his own son killed. It was not uncommon, when there was more than one son, for the potential rival to be killed even by his own brother. This was meant to prevent a splitting of the loyalty of the subjects.

Also interesting was learning about the place of the “harem” which was not the imagined “sexual free for all” for the ruler that some would have us believe. The Sultan spent a lot of leisure time with the women because it was an escape from the duties of court and only a strictly limited number of wives and concubines were there for his “pleasure”. Apparently the harem women were highly valued for their contribution into the management of court duties.

Our planned outing in October to the Anglican Benedictine convent has been cancelled due to illness at the convent. We are still going to the Winton Wetlands Hub for lunch and will have a guest speaker, if available. For this outing we will car pool, for people driving from Benalla, starting from the Dunlop campus carpark, (between the classroom and Aldi supermarket).  We will leave the carpark at 12:10pm for lunch at 12:30 at the Hub.

Regarding the duration and start time of our regular Dunlop campus classes: it was decided at the September meeting that we change back to a two hour session with the option of an extra half hour if needed.  The start time will stay at 1pm.

Mike Larkin

July/August - Islam

25/8/2015

 
Only a few people attended the July session and we finished early due to the cold weather, having discussed the homework from June and watched a video about Islam. The video contained the essential history of the rise of Islam and the role that Mohammed played.

Life for the mainly desert Arabs was one of almost constant warfare with other tribal groups over territory and religious allegiances. The only time that the fighting stopped and the tribes got together was in a sacred tent in Mecca where no fighting was allowed. This “ceasefire” also enabled trading to take place and so the human ingenuity for “turning a blind eye” prevailed.

Mohammed’s genius was to declare a single God and this had the effect of uniting the various tribes. The sacred tent in Mecca was retained and other rules followed such as prayer 5 times a day, while facing Mecca, plus the various rules about hygiene, food and so on.

I was reminded by Mohammed’s life story that it was similar to Ghandi’s, whom we studied earlier in the year.  Both Ghandi and Mohammed were as much political strategists as they were spiritual leaders. In Mohammed’s case major battles were fought to overcome resistance to his new religion and for Ghandi the “battle” to liberate India from the British was fought using “non-resistance” methods.  These two leaders inspired major change to whole societies.

No homework was organized for this period, but for those interested, and wishing to prepare in advance for our next session, August 5th, we will watch the excellent video on Islam again, because so few of the class have seen it. We meet as usual in the ex-Centre room Dunlop Campus.

September’s topic is as yet undecided.

At this stage a trip is planned in October to the Benedictine Monastery at Thoona and on the same trip we may stop at the Winton wetlands café for lunch, or afternoon tea, plus study the indigenous displays and possibly hear details about it from an indigenous representative.

In November, our final meeting of the year, we will study/discuss Christianity and Judaism.

Mike Larkin

June - religion and spirituality; the story of Buddha

19/6/2015

 
We started our June session reviewing the homework from our session in May.  The discussion included a question about spirituality compared to religious institutions.  As a result of the discussion our homework for this month is to define each the following in a single sentence:

  • What is religion?

  • What is spirituality?

  • Are we religious, spiritual, or something else?

We went on to look at a documentary on the story of Buddha.  This gave some insights into the background of Buddhism, including some of the myths behind his birth and early life.  It was interesting to compare these to the record in the Bible re the birth of Jesus.  For example, there was a story of a mother’s dream of a child becoming the Buddha, and in Isaiah there is a prediction of the birth of Jesus.  Mike shared some thoughts from his study of the Gospels, bringing together some of the learning from our previous sessions, and also highlighting some similarities between Buddhism and Christianity.  This brought in an extra question to look at as part of our homework – what is Gnosticism?

A reminder for students that we are now commencing the session at 1:00pm.

The life of Mahatma Ghandi...

25/5/2015

 
We started the May session with a presentation by Joe on his studies of the Bible as an historical document as compared to a literal truth.  He talked about a number of other resources that led him to believe that there was a “Great Flood” around 2500-3000 BCE.  One of his references was “The Bible as History” by W Keller.  His studies have led him to conclude that the Bible can be considered an historical document.

During the April session we watched the start of the movie Ghandi – the life of Mahatma Ghandi – but as the movie was very long, we were unable to see it through to the end.  This month we watched the remainder and took some time after the movie to discuss what we had learnt.  A few people commented on Ghandi’s view that all people were equal – he did not follow the caste system that is still found in parts.  We compared this also to St Francis from the movie Brother Sun Sister Moon we had watched on February, where he also had a similar approach to people.  Another comment that also applied to both Ghandi and St Francis was that they did not need personal possessions to provide happiness.  We also discussed a few pages from an article “The Eternal Teaching: Hinduism” which ended by raising the question whether Hinduism is really a religion, or is it a culture.  For next month’s session we have been asked to look at the question: “How close is Hinduism to Islam/Judaism/Christianity”?

Finally, the group decided to start the sessions at 1:00 pm.  We are watching movies to get a view of different religions and the earlier start will give us more time to discuss what we have seen and concluded about the religions. 

February and March update..

31/3/2015

 
The first session in February involved watching Franco Zeffirelli’s movie “Brother Sun Sister Moon” which depicted the spiritual life of St Francis. The movie was almost two hours in duration and this left little time for discussion. Our coordinator Laurence Neill wrote a questionnaire about aspects of the film and these were discussed during our March session. We formed groups of three in order to examine a particular question each and then reported our conclusions to the whole group.

The March attendance was less than February, and again the group watched a shorter documentary, this time about Hinduism and it was discussed afterwards.  Our homework for next month (April) is to study both Hinduism and Buddhism. Both of these religions originated in India, and Hinduism is almost twice the “age” of Christianity.

The days of being told what to believe and how to practice one’s own spirituality are passing. This group gives us an opportunity to deepen our understanding thanks largely to the skill and knowledge of our coordinator Laurence.

“Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but religiously follows the new.” (Henry David Thoreau)

Mike Larkin

"You will be challenged by this programme"

16/1/2015

 
"You will be challenged by this programme.  A new approach to the study of the doctrines, practices and world views of selected faith traditions.  We will commence with a screening of the beautifully shot film by Zefferelli, Brother Son, Sister Moon (1972).    I am looking forward to wide ranging discussions during our class sessions.

Laurence Neal"

Source: January Newsletter

Returning in 2015... Comparative Religions

9/1/2015

 
This course, popular in the past,  is making a welcome return.  The 'Comparative religions' course involves  a systematic comparison of the doctrines and practices of some of the world religions and will cover Middle Eastern, Indian, East Asian and Oceanic faiths.  In order to gain a richer experience of a particular faith, a relevant film will be screened to enhance the understanding of and the diverse nature of the religions being studied.  Faiths covered will include, Pacific Islander, Australian Indigenous beliefs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Taoism, Christianity and Judaism.   The tutor, Laurence Neal, is travelling from Wangaratta to teach the course, so participants will be asked to contribute $1 towards his travel costs. 

    About Comparative Religion

    This program is a systematic comparison of the doctrines and practices of some of the world religions.  In order to gain a richer experience of a particular faith, a relevant film will be shown to enhance the understanding of the diverse nature of the religion being studied.  Faiths covered will include Pacific Islander/Australian Indigenous beliefs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Christianity and Judaism. As well as guest speakers and film, we will source material from the internet projected onto the TV via USB stick. 

    Meeting times

    1st Wednesday 1:00 pm to 3:00 pm with the option of remaining until 3.30 pm if required on the day W4  

    Convenor/s and Contact Details

    Mike Larkin 5767 2323 (0428273613 - no reception at home).

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